I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. makes sense. Within each barony you can build a single Holding. There's also penalties to holding too many titles. Ok so I'm completely new to CK2, never played the original. . No existing Merchant Republic can have trade posts in their demesne. Advantages of counties: Tech spreads across demesne More monthly prestigeFor example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. 3 coastal holdings/county. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Side note, I'd like the ability to change a holding type in exchange of a large amount of money and the loss of intra holding "buildings". makes sense. . Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Crusader Kings III. I have always looked at counties in CK2 with lots of empty slots as "nice", but I rather have a 4-holding county where all the holdings have been created and some of its buildings have been upgraded to a 7-holding county full of empty slots. Available now on Paradox Mods, on Steam workshop (on hold for long)I don't understand this. Paradox Forum. Wrong type of holding in demesne ck2. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. But you can put them under a vassal if you like. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. makes sense. This works well, especially in coastal duchies (extra buildings for cities basically double their tax income). . . For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. Slows down sieges and resists raiding. Feb 10, So I was playing the demo earlierand an alert button popped up saying. But hey, you get richer in the future. I don't know why it's there because I have other chiefdoms and those. And how I can change this. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. I don't understand this. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. 700+. There are 3 types of holdings: Castles, Cities and Temples. They are not the right type of holding. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. I revoked a the title of mayor of a main city of a holding from a vassal. . I hold Leicester as Earl. Barons are affected by feudal ta, mayors are. Hover over the other ruler's demesne. The formula for each vassal is: Liege Taxes = Vassal Income x Tax Percentage x Penalty Modifiers. And how I can change this. Ck2 Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne. . . I don't understand this. And how I can change this. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. . 0) If you are using the 'Way of Life' DLC you must either have Business Focus, or instead be of Vaishya caste. Fast forward a generation and the. makes sense. I was playing as Matilda. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. But you can put them under a vassal if you like. How do I make stone hillfort in Crusader Kings 2?Ĭlick on the “village” holding (marked with a green arrow and USUALLY. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Barons have baronies, mayors have cities, and bishops have bishoprics. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. And how I can change this. . I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Why is it bad to govern cities directly? I am guessing it is bad since I got the message warning me. The above-mentioned most important and obvious factors are your demesne limit (top right corner of your screen; this is the number of counties or baronies you hold personally) and the number of ducal titles you hold if you're a king or emperor (this can't be above 2 or you face opinion penalties; just click the face of your character and you'll. There's also penalties to holding too many titles. Wrong type of holding in demesne for feudal lord capturing tribes. where: Vassal Income is the vassal's total steady income. . I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Not sure of exact percentages but you get a lot less levy and gold from them. It's nice to be able to revoke the titles penalty-free when you need more holdings in your domain. makes sense. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. They are not the right type of holding. Garrison. View entire discussion ( 17 comments) More posts from the CrusaderKings community Continue browsing in rCrusaderKings rCrusaderKings Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy RPG video game series for PC, Mac Linux developed published by Paradox Interactive. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. . Crusader Kings is a historical grand strategy / RPG game series for PC, Mac, Linux, PlayStation 5 & Xbox Series X|S developed & published by Paradox Development Studio. They are not the right type of holding. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. makes sense. I'm playing a petty king in northern wales and captured the Isle of Mann. 700+ gold to build it, I'll make that up. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. Fast forward a generation and the. My vassal guy Ragnvald from Ormund decided. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. 21 coastal. I gave. There are five types of settlements, each with a different set of buildings. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Just now, I finished constructing a new city in the county where my ruler resides. One 6-holding. Alongside intimidating the AI by helping yourself to larger percentages of their troops, you want to make sure none of your vassals are particularly powerful in the first place. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Rogues are the masters of stealthy combat and ranged weapons. But I can't give it away. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Hi My question is, what are the consequences (cons and maybe there are some pros) of having a a wrong holding type or a big demense? From what I know: Cons of having a big demense: - Problems with taxes? Cons of having a wrong holding type: -. What does it mean, and how do I fix it?And how I can change this. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Any help would be appreciated. Effect. . Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Any help would be appreciated. Boards. Any help would be appreciated. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. This has been asked before, but how do you get rid of this problem? I built a new town in one of my holds and want to own it - but the problem is, to…For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). As a King can only hold two Duchies without a large opinion penalty from. CryptoHello, I would like to know more about this game since i find it difficult than other strategies, some things i have learned in hard way and some i still can not. . 19 coastal. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. makes sense. Any help would be appreciated. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. And here CK2 handled cities much better - city vassals gave a lot of extra money at the expense of some relation penalty. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Also, it can be a good idea to not grant too. Any help would be appreciated. The best ways to do this is to either simply revoke the baron's title (which WILL give you an opinion hit from all your other vassals, but is often still the simpler of the solutions), or, assassinate the entire family holding the castle so that upon the last holder's death, it will revert to you. One of the most common errors made by new players of Crusader Kings 2 is to spend too much time focusing on personal success and acquiring as many titles as. If you have a different system of government your vassal will not like you. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. Ck2 Holder Is Of Wrong Holding Type. A. I have this and I dont know how to fix it. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. If I select a vassal. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's base income. This limit is what forces rulers to distribute power to vassals rather than directly controlling their entire realm. New player here; my son and I just bought CK2 a few days ago. Why is this considered "Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne" despite being a chiefdom In my current game I started out playing a viking from the petty kingdom of Gotland. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. The Clans screen will indicate. . How to deal with this issue? 2) Title loss on Succession ( 2 duchies and 1 city which was already granted. . as you cannot build multiple tribal holdings in one county and get crippling penalties for wrong holding type. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. Feudals aren't generally allowed to hold cities or temples without penalty. Thank you. ? Long story short, I was ruling as the king of Ireland but my character had terrible traits and was hated by everyone and was eventually excommunicated, making everyone hate me more. . Cities can be good if you're trying to max out county Development but you can't hold them. That means you are starting out with two titles, Petty King of Connachta, And Count of Connachta. They are not the right type of holding. Just give the county to some nobody that shares your religion and culture and isn't ambitious!! And how I can change this. This however triggered two consequences I do not understand. . Forums. Tribalism is an early form of government, and one of three playable non-feudal government types in CK2 (the other two being merchant republics and nomadism . Fast forward a generation and the. "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" | Paradox Interactive Forums "Wrong type of holding in Demesne" aliebling Feb 15, 2012 Jump to latest Follow Reply What. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. . One 6-holding. What is the actual penalty for holding these?For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. I got this message when I revoked the title of major of Sigtuna (a city) from an underling. What exactly does this mean? If there's no castle, then you'd need to build one then give the barony away, if the castle holder is your vassal, you can try to revoke the castle title, make it the primary holding, then give the barony away. . Thank you. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. 700+. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Thank you. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. 700+. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. And how I can change this. Either to an unlanded courtier, previously landed vassal or a newly created one through the given holding's menu. Demesne income. “Wrong type of Holding in demesne” I am really new to crusader king2 and just got it today I think I am playing as Romania or severin/timas I was… What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. cities. But I can't give it away. Got replaced by the heir that had a city as landed title. Some governments can hold different types (patricians and the byzantine / roman imperial gov can hold castles and cities while Iqta can hold castles and temples). I've got this notifier pop up - "Wrong type of holding in demesne". Any ideas? Right now, this is about to be my punishment county. 700+. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Vassaless runs are worse than runs with vassals because you cannot hold all holdings without the demesne size penalty and you get gold*0,1 from that holding. . My favourite are counties with 5 holdings, where 4 of them are 2 castles, 1 city and 1 church. I gave. In a separate issue, I have towns/castles that I can't upgrade because it says I don't have Keeps II which I do have. Frustratingly, clicking on the notifier takes me to a "Realm" window which. Empty holding slots in demesne provinces serve as grazing grounds for the nomadic population and armies. But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. I. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. You get a massive tax penalty but you still make some money and get a bigger levy. All but 2 are coastal. It isn't listed as one of my demesnes that I can assign to someone else. Each ruler (except nomads) has a demesne limit, and exceeding it causes a penalty to taxes and levies. Still super new to this game and I'm in need of some help. They pay the most taxes, and once upgraded give numerous levies, but have a lower fort level than castles and their levies consist more of the lighter soldier types than both castles and temples. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. I am listed as the holder of the city of Newark, so I keep getting the "wrong type of holding" alert. You aren't supposed to directly hold cities or temples as a feudal lord. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become. They are not the right type of holding. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. So, I'm the king of England. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. . Clan leader = Jarl, Earl and Baron of Area A. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. There are three types of holdings: Baronies: Focus on troops. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Early game they're cheap but get pricey quick. The first warning you mention about wrong holding type in demense occurs when the player holds a title incompatible with either the game itself (you can't only be a baron, bishop, or burgher as the player and receive penalty for directly holding them) or incompatible with their government type such as a tribal having feudal holdings and vice. 9/8/2023. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. When I start having lots of money I build cities in every demesne county slot and help them get going with markets and ports. Also you cannot hold a holding that does not correspond to your type of government without penalty. If Hindu, be sure to match the character's caste with the holding type. A character is affected by your levy and taxation laws based on their type. Holy stays at just 25. . 700+. . makes sense. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. CryptoI don't understand this. I was playing as. Castles are generally most useful for Feudal rulers since they can be held as part of your domain directly. Thread starter Jaol; Start date Feb 26,. . 3/1/2023 0 Comments The Earth Hillfort in this holding is already Level I so will “only” take three more upgrades to become a Stone Hillfort, which is what you need to go feudal. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. In CK2 some of them do so (to compensate their land being de facto so heavily underrated), and their military power is based on mercenaries (Mamluks of Egypt, Ghilman of Iraq/Persia) That would be ok, if these armies were not supported by quite massive vasal and demesne levies. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. If the Khagan continues to hold onto too many counties, a minor clan can rise up in rebellion to force the Khagan to recognise it as a major clan. A Screenshot of Crusader Kings III. I don't know why. . But now I see Wrong type of holding in demesne message. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. *Yes of course you can hold as many duchies holding as you want, and ignore the liege holds de jure duchy stuff if you want and have other bonuses to relations or a lot of dread. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. As such, you will get that penalty any time you hold a city or a. Because whenever I assign a landed title I see. The plot concluded and I won the county back, but I am now getting a message that says: Wrong type of holding in demesne. You aren't supposed to directly hold cities or temples as a feudal lord. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". 700+. . 18. . So you can have an entire province or a castle within it. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. The formula for each vassal is: Liege Taxes = Vassal Income x Tax Percentage x Penalty Modifiers. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. Thank you. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. No 6-holding. 4 7 comments Add a Comment RandomGenius123 • 4 yr. And how I can change this. Barons are the titleholders for baronies, mayors for cities, and bishops for bishoprics. I guess it's because the capital is temple and I should put some bishop to rule there, right?What are the cons of having the wrong holdings in demense? Because whenever I control a city, it's giving me quite a bit of income, but are there downsides to this and why is the game telling me I have the 'wrong holding?'I own the county of Genoa now, the City of Genoa is the capital holding, and all other holdings in the county are owned by vassals. Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Star Wars Clone Medic Cara Mengembalikan Face Time Yang Tersembunyi Cabin Fever The Long Dark How To Make Money In Arma 3 Life. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Later you can use the character search to land people in your realm, usually nice same culture/religion people on the council of your vassals. #4. I now have a penelty for wrong demense type. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. As the map receives further updates, the number of holdings may increase. I have looked at the titles for that county (Perfeddwlad - Wales) and I have nothing for the Major of Dendigh which the title was originally. . Most characters cannot hold a city within their direct demesne without suffering. These holdings provide both income and taxes, and every holding is held by a character. Holdings with the wrong government penalty almost always give less resources then if it was filtered throught a vassal with the correct government. (Also, max out city tax focus laws). Thank you. Cities: Focus on tax. Did all the tutorials and read some of the manual but not all. Settlements [edit | edit source]. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. A separate tax rate applies to each government type. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. Bedford has a castle and I'm still tribal. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. They can become powerful and rebel. Years later, my current king inherits the county and now I have the "Wrong type of Holding in Demesne" message. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. So all I can build are castles (and still own them)?? So I have to give yet another holding away? Build a city of your own and give it away. Ck2 Pillage Holding; Such holdings may either be counties or baronies. Settlements [edit | edit source]. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. I build a fort, no problem, I then build a city and I get this message. Counties can have 3 types of holdings - baronies, cities, and bishoprics. Crusader Kings 2 Taxes, Levy and Laws Taxes There are 3 types of holdings in CK2: Castles are owned by feudal lords Churches are owned by bishops Cities are owned by mayors You are a feudal lord so having a city or a church in your demesne is considered having a wrong type of holding and you get 25% penalty to the holding's base income (BI): The Basics. . Latest. . I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. To lift the excommunication I gifted the Pope a county (Connact) to raise his opinion of me. What is the actual penalty for holding these?I just built a city in my capitol county, and it says "Holder is of wrong holding type". Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. This however triggered two consequences I do not understand. . You lose 75% of the. . top of page. All but 2 are coastal. As you can see, level 2 pays of faster than level 1, but more slowly than level 3. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. And how I can change this. Some time ago - I'm not even sure it was my current ruler - I married somebody off into Bedford. . I gave away the bishopric that I took over, but I still have it and it says that the Chiefdom of Gwynedd is the wrong holding type for me. Mods. are they baronage. So should I just spread out my demesne across the entire realm, with few castles here and there, instead of controlling everything. . Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne Ck2 Change Holding Type; Wrong Type Of Holding In Demesne / dɪˈmeɪn, -ˈmin / noun. Menu. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. For the counties I usually go to the intrigue tab to recruit a noble/soldier/holy men. Merchant Republics aside, players can only hold Tribes (if Tribal) or Baronies (if Feudal). They are not the right type of holding. “Wrong type of Holding in demesne” I am really new to crusader king2 and just got it today I think I am playing as Romania or severin/timas I was…What penalties, if any, are there for a wrong holding type? E. But I can't give it away. I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. What exactly does this mean?What exactly does this mean?What exactly does this mean?It means you are holding onto a city or bishropic. . I hold Leicester as Earl. Now I have a tribe as the capital, rather than a castle. Crusader Kings II. Any help would be appreciated. . What is the actual penalty for holding these?I have de jure claims on Worchester, it was ruled by a prince-bishop since the capital of the county is temple. The more the better. Being a republic unlocks the convert to city decision for you, which creates a holding of each type in the chosen province (if a temple already exists it will not be created). I am the emperor of Rajastan (currently in northern India) and I built a city and a temple. I'm currently the Petty King of Meath. As such, your first goal should be level 2 in all holdings before you upgrade any further. Crusader Kings II Expansion Subscription. Business, Economics, and Finance. . For example, my capital has 6 slots, all of them belong to different vassals and I don't even seem to have a claim on them (even though I'm the heir, if the current title holder dies and I get it, it will just say "wrong type of holding"). You can check that by clicking the shield to the to left of the bishopric in the province screen. Do I have to give mayorship of this town to one of my vassals? If I do that or don't what are the economic consequenses? I saved for a long time to build this town so I could bring in some more cash. Everything I fight for goes to someone else so people have said to build your own in your own counties. Also, just to mention; if you conquer a province and acquire all its holdings you will automatically see a wrong holding in your demesne. . Anyways, I'm playing my first game as the Ua Briain dynasty in Ireland.